Grace and peace from the LOrd! The wine sent to me of which you write as a present is approzimately 6 Eimer, my dear Franz, and I wish you happiness in your new honor or labor and I pray the LOrd (Deum) Christ that He will increase evey blessing and support, Amen.
We are in discussions here with the English if you can call bickering discussion.To me it is unacceptable that it is of such great expense as to be a burden to the Prince.I am at least satiated ad nauseum and I already long before had begun to hate this word-quarreling with Carlstadt and Zwingli as Paul says (1 Tim.6:4)that the heart becomes darkened with such and everything which one knows is lost and one becomes a fool. "As they wanted to be considered wise,(says he,{Rom.1:22), they have become fools". More of this orally.
The debate on the Private-masses will be held next Saturday (Jan.29), as God wills, and it can be summed up in this syllogism; Every human service in divine things is an abomination; Each Private-mass is of this sort; therefore every Private-mass is an abomination.
Be it well with you in the LOrd and come when you can. Given on the day of the Conversion of St. Paul (25 Jan.) 1536.Your Martin Luther.
NOTES: As Catherine of Aragon just died in January 1536 one would think the question of the marriage of Henry VIII would have been settled. Nevertheless Anne Boleyn will be executed in June of 1536.
An Eimer is a pail.
Friday, February 29, 2008
Thursday, February 28, 2008
#2207-To Georg ,Prince of Anhalt
To the illustrious, highly-worthy Prince and Lord,Herr Georg,Tumprobst in Magdeburg, Prince in Anhalt, Graf in Asconien and Lord in Bernburg,my gracious Lord.
G.et.P in Christo (Grace and peace in Christ)and my poor pater noster etc. Illustrious,high-born Prince, gracious Lord! I note that my non-gracious Lord, the Bishop etc., has delayed the case of Anonius Schenitz, and I as I always was concerned has pretended the reconciliation and kindness of the miserable and mine is a mockery. Now since he has again thrown the rope about the horns of EFG and again used it so that he can again find and put before EFG much business daily so that EFG must out of one forty days four, five et forty days make until finally his time and whim so that he might at last reward EFG as M.Georg Schenits and others in addition. Since it is not my suspicion alone but the outrage of others that he is not to be trusted and if God grants him a true word whether one could find him to believe it. Therefore it is my heart's wish that EFG would permit him to remain idle and let him be a pious and holy Cardinal if it is possible that a Cardinal can be holy and pious.Thus they do not call Cardinals without having the four cardinal virtues, as the work praises the master and the fruit the tree. Therefore I request that EFG would let this matter go and come to an end; where the skin and hair is not good etc. I must let something proceed since I want to take the Cardinal with me, it goes as God will,Amen. EFG to serve I am willing. Herewith be commended to God,Amen. The Day of St.Timothy (24 Jan.) 1536. EFG's willing one,Martinus Luther.
NOTA BENE:Georg Winkler, pastor in Halle, was murdered by By Cardinal Albrect.
There was a proverb if the hair and skin was not good, it could not make a good fur.
"da wird kein guter Pelz aus".There are various four cardinal virtues beginning with Plato among them; justice,fortitude,prudence, temperance. Anyone have four for four?
G.et.P in Christo (Grace and peace in Christ)and my poor pater noster etc. Illustrious,high-born Prince, gracious Lord! I note that my non-gracious Lord, the Bishop etc., has delayed the case of Anonius Schenitz, and I as I always was concerned has pretended the reconciliation and kindness of the miserable and mine is a mockery. Now since he has again thrown the rope about the horns of EFG and again used it so that he can again find and put before EFG much business daily so that EFG must out of one forty days four, five et forty days make until finally his time and whim so that he might at last reward EFG as M.Georg Schenits and others in addition. Since it is not my suspicion alone but the outrage of others that he is not to be trusted and if God grants him a true word whether one could find him to believe it. Therefore it is my heart's wish that EFG would permit him to remain idle and let him be a pious and holy Cardinal if it is possible that a Cardinal can be holy and pious.Thus they do not call Cardinals without having the four cardinal virtues, as the work praises the master and the fruit the tree. Therefore I request that EFG would let this matter go and come to an end; where the skin and hair is not good etc. I must let something proceed since I want to take the Cardinal with me, it goes as God will,Amen. EFG to serve I am willing. Herewith be commended to God,Amen. The Day of St.Timothy (24 Jan.) 1536. EFG's willing one,Martinus Luther.
NOTA BENE:Georg Winkler, pastor in Halle, was murdered by By Cardinal Albrect.
There was a proverb if the hair and skin was not good, it could not make a good fur.
"da wird kein guter Pelz aus".There are various four cardinal virtues beginning with Plato among them; justice,fortitude,prudence, temperance. Anyone have four for four?
Tuesday, February 26, 2008
Sunday, February 24, 2008
#2206-To Caspar Mueller, Kanzler in Mansfeld
To the honorable and discreet Caspar Mueller, in Mansfeld Kanzler (leading minister),my gracious lord and dear god-father.
Grace and peace. My dear lord Kanzler and god-father! I wanted to write to you extensively according to your wishes; I am also ill with coughing and head-cold; however the greatest sickness that is over me is that the sun has shined so long on me which affliction you well know, which is so common,and one would rather die. People have become blind because of such long shining; several have become gray, black and wrinkled thereby. Who knows that perhaps also your thigh was injured when you stepped upon a stone which by the sun's rays was heated, and also brought you these sad days? Although the dear sun is not responsible though the mud is hardened by its shining and the wax has become soft. Its manner is to move and bring several things to the eyes; as it is deft so it at last discovers everything.
I might well want Kegel for a boarder for various reasons but because the bursar is again coming from Jena the table is full and cannot push aside the present companions;if, however, there is place after Easter I would gladly do your pleasure if Herr Kaethe would be favorable to me.
About the English delegation (about which you Manfeldish lords are so curious)I know nothing special to write. The queen (Catharine of Aragon) is dead; and one says that the Fraulein,(Mary I) the daughter is deathly ill. The case she completely lost before the whole world except for us poor beggars, the theologians of Wittenberg. They would have liked to preserve the royal honor that if she might have lived. This has become the end and the conclusion.
The Pope has dealt in this matter as a Pope,contraris bullas given and with that ploy it is right that he has been expelled from England but not for the sake of the Gospel (etiam non Evangelii causa). He has truly cast the die against the King so that I almost can excuse the King and yet cannot justify the matter.
Dear one, yet curse one more time the Papacy with the Pater Noster so that it gets St.Velten (epilepsy). The Pope's Orator is here, as you know; however, the answer given in Schmalkald I cannot, in haste, send. Now I must cough and cannot before the cough seek it out; if the cough lets up I will attempt it. Yet I think the cough will let up if you pray for me.
For the division of the foundry to you I wish happiness to you. However for the rest I do not have bad hopes; since my theology says that man's undertaking and God's blessing are contrary to one another. If my dear Fatherland is to be stripped so be it on my part undefended.
However, simce neither you nor Jacob Luther write how it goes that makes you very good fellows and the Kauf-people with your silence you make us poor children (as we are here)think that we and you are always to be beggars.Yet God should nevertheless nourish us,Amen.
Tell my brother that my cough and his silence do not permit me to answer. Greet my black hen together with the little cook. I must cough and on the Lenten night go to Torgau; I do not know whether I will cough in the same way. Perhaps I must let Hans of Jena take the lead. My lord Kaethe greets you in a friendly way and pleads that if the sun shines upon you it will not be in in an overwhelming way, as I, if it is in your power
Your god-son Donimus Ioannes greets you; does not want to become great (but not in evil)according to God's will. Herewith be commended to God.
Let my ways please you (as far as you know them); since I am so hard and dull, gross, gray,green,overloaded, mixed up, over-extended with cases so that I for the salvation of this cadervis (corpse) at times let the desires break out of the fence.Man is no more than a man apart from what God can make one yet not apart from our anointing.Greet all the good lords and friends.1536 Midweek after St. Peter's Catherdali (19 January)D. Martinus Luther
NOTA BENe: The Queen is Catharine of Aragon who died in January 1536. The daughter, Mary, I was a sickly child but survived to be Queen.
The Kaufleute are the Kaufmanns i.e. on the side of ML's mother. Sounds like the foundry was divided among the relatives.
Dominus Ioannes is the son John of ML and Kaethe for whom Caspar Mueller is god-parent.
Grace and peace. My dear lord Kanzler and god-father! I wanted to write to you extensively according to your wishes; I am also ill with coughing and head-cold; however the greatest sickness that is over me is that the sun has shined so long on me which affliction you well know, which is so common,and one would rather die. People have become blind because of such long shining; several have become gray, black and wrinkled thereby. Who knows that perhaps also your thigh was injured when you stepped upon a stone which by the sun's rays was heated, and also brought you these sad days? Although the dear sun is not responsible though the mud is hardened by its shining and the wax has become soft. Its manner is to move and bring several things to the eyes; as it is deft so it at last discovers everything.
I might well want Kegel for a boarder for various reasons but because the bursar is again coming from Jena the table is full and cannot push aside the present companions;if, however, there is place after Easter I would gladly do your pleasure if Herr Kaethe would be favorable to me.
About the English delegation (about which you Manfeldish lords are so curious)I know nothing special to write. The queen (Catharine of Aragon) is dead; and one says that the Fraulein,(Mary I) the daughter is deathly ill. The case she completely lost before the whole world except for us poor beggars, the theologians of Wittenberg. They would have liked to preserve the royal honor that if she might have lived. This has become the end and the conclusion.
The Pope has dealt in this matter as a Pope,contraris bullas given and with that ploy it is right that he has been expelled from England but not for the sake of the Gospel (etiam non Evangelii causa). He has truly cast the die against the King so that I almost can excuse the King and yet cannot justify the matter.
Dear one, yet curse one more time the Papacy with the Pater Noster so that it gets St.Velten (epilepsy). The Pope's Orator is here, as you know; however, the answer given in Schmalkald I cannot, in haste, send. Now I must cough and cannot before the cough seek it out; if the cough lets up I will attempt it. Yet I think the cough will let up if you pray for me.
For the division of the foundry to you I wish happiness to you. However for the rest I do not have bad hopes; since my theology says that man's undertaking and God's blessing are contrary to one another. If my dear Fatherland is to be stripped so be it on my part undefended.
However, simce neither you nor Jacob Luther write how it goes that makes you very good fellows and the Kauf-people with your silence you make us poor children (as we are here)think that we and you are always to be beggars.Yet God should nevertheless nourish us,Amen.
Tell my brother that my cough and his silence do not permit me to answer. Greet my black hen together with the little cook. I must cough and on the Lenten night go to Torgau; I do not know whether I will cough in the same way. Perhaps I must let Hans of Jena take the lead. My lord Kaethe greets you in a friendly way and pleads that if the sun shines upon you it will not be in in an overwhelming way, as I, if it is in your power
Your god-son Donimus Ioannes greets you; does not want to become great (but not in evil)according to God's will. Herewith be commended to God.
Let my ways please you (as far as you know them); since I am so hard and dull, gross, gray,green,overloaded, mixed up, over-extended with cases so that I for the salvation of this cadervis (corpse) at times let the desires break out of the fence.Man is no more than a man apart from what God can make one yet not apart from our anointing.Greet all the good lords and friends.1536 Midweek after St. Peter's Catherdali (19 January)D. Martinus Luther
NOTA BENe: The Queen is Catharine of Aragon who died in January 1536. The daughter, Mary, I was a sickly child but survived to be Queen.
The Kaufleute are the Kaufmanns i.e. on the side of ML's mother. Sounds like the foundry was divided among the relatives.
Dominus Ioannes is the son John of ML and Kaethe for whom Caspar Mueller is god-parent.
Wednesday, February 20, 2008
#2205- To Nicolaus Hausmann in Dessau
To the worthy and highly-reverend man, Herr M.Nic. Hausmannn, servant of the Word in Dessau, his superior in the LOrd.
Grace and peace in Christ! I plead with you, my dear Hausmann, that you would the marriage (matter?) of M(eister) Peter let pass over. M(eister) Petr has no authority over her since she as a widow has been long freed (emancipata) from the fatherly authority and is independent and M(eister) Peter has by public judgment been deprived of the house and possessions. She married at her own risk and it is enough that M(eister) Peter had so tragically dealt with the previous son-in-law so he should have not much to do with this but rather be concerned with his own being.
For the pastor in Woerlitz I do not know now of any settled position (so I will not make any futile promises to him); however, when I can, I will gladly be of service to when some sort of position is open.
As to news I have none beyond which you no doubt have heard there from M.Franz. The English envoys are waiting here for M.Philippus for him to further the matter of the King. I am involved with so many things that I hardly devote much time to any particular thing. My Kaethe greets you respectfully; be it right well with you in Christ. About Spiegel and your matter I will at another time write briefly. Again, be it well with you. On the day of St. Antonius (17 Jan.) Anno 1536.
NOTE: If this is as thought Peter Balbierer he stabbed to death at table the previous son-in-law and he was banned by the Elector. ML intervened and the death sentence was lifted.
Grace and peace in Christ! I plead with you, my dear Hausmann, that you would the marriage (matter?) of M(eister) Peter let pass over. M(eister) Petr has no authority over her since she as a widow has been long freed (emancipata) from the fatherly authority and is independent and M(eister) Peter has by public judgment been deprived of the house and possessions. She married at her own risk and it is enough that M(eister) Peter had so tragically dealt with the previous son-in-law so he should have not much to do with this but rather be concerned with his own being.
For the pastor in Woerlitz I do not know now of any settled position (so I will not make any futile promises to him); however, when I can, I will gladly be of service to when some sort of position is open.
As to news I have none beyond which you no doubt have heard there from M.Franz. The English envoys are waiting here for M.Philippus for him to further the matter of the King. I am involved with so many things that I hardly devote much time to any particular thing. My Kaethe greets you respectfully; be it right well with you in Christ. About Spiegel and your matter I will at another time write briefly. Again, be it well with you. On the day of St. Antonius (17 Jan.) Anno 1536.
NOTE: If this is as thought Peter Balbierer he stabbed to death at table the previous son-in-law and he was banned by the Elector. ML intervened and the death sentence was lifted.
Saturday, February 16, 2008
#2204-To Balthasar Raide, Preacher in Hersfeld
To the highly-honorable brother in the LOrd, Balthasar Raide,the very faithful and upright servant of the church in Hersfeld (Hirsfeldensis).
Grace and peace in Christ! Your letter has been delivered to me, however, by a chance messenger so that I was not able to respond. And since you have requested to see my hand I have written on the back side of this letter with large letters.If by this portrait you can recognize my hand,good; if not, still my temperment; I believe that I can discern not only your hand by your letter but also it is a witness of your disposition. The LOrd Jesus preserve you in this His kingdom. Yet, meanwhile, pray also for me that I may be free from certain godless people as you boast, in the LOrd, that you are free from the Anabaptists and the Sects. For me new prophets are always standing up and always one after another so that I almost wish to depart so that I do not see so much evil without end and at last be free of this kingdom of the devil. This you will pray for me since I am asking it of you. Our LOrd Jesus Christ preserve you;in Him be it right well with you. Given on the seventeenth of January 1536. Your Martin Luther.
NOTE: ON the back side which ML calls "dorsum huis chartae" of the original according to De Wette in large letters: Manum mean petisti
ECCE
manum meam habes
Martinus Lutherus
i.e. You wanted my hand, behold, my hand you have.
Grace and peace in Christ! Your letter has been delivered to me, however, by a chance messenger so that I was not able to respond. And since you have requested to see my hand I have written on the back side of this letter with large letters.If by this portrait you can recognize my hand,good; if not, still my temperment; I believe that I can discern not only your hand by your letter but also it is a witness of your disposition. The LOrd Jesus preserve you in this His kingdom. Yet, meanwhile, pray also for me that I may be free from certain godless people as you boast, in the LOrd, that you are free from the Anabaptists and the Sects. For me new prophets are always standing up and always one after another so that I almost wish to depart so that I do not see so much evil without end and at last be free of this kingdom of the devil. This you will pray for me since I am asking it of you. Our LOrd Jesus Christ preserve you;in Him be it right well with you. Given on the seventeenth of January 1536. Your Martin Luther.
NOTE: ON the back side which ML calls "dorsum huis chartae" of the original according to De Wette in large letters: Manum mean petisti
ECCE
manum meam habes
Martinus Lutherus
i.e. You wanted my hand, behold, my hand you have.
Friday, February 15, 2008
Maria Rossetti on Eigendunkel
eaning of the expletive."
The elder Miss Rossetti had also something of her elder brother's artistic faculty. Two or three designs in A Shadow of Dante were her own work. In addition to this book there is one imaginative essay by her which is practically unknown. It is very scarce indeed; possibly not half a dozen copies are extant. I have seen one copy only, that which was lent me by Miss Christina Rossetti. it was printed privately in 1846, when the authoress was in her nineteenth year. The title is The Rivulet; a Dream not all a Dream, and the matter is an allegory of life and religion, where the personalities are introduced as Liebe (Love), Selbsucht (Selfishness), Eigendunkel (Presumption), and Faule (Indolence). The "rivulets" represent the natural heart of man; the "serpents " who are for ever fouling the waters, the devil ; the fruit and flowers overhanging the banks and poisonous when 'they fall into streams, the grosser and less palpably sinful allurements of the world the crystal mirror which the guardian of each rivulet has in keeping represents the Scriptures ; the vases of perfume, prayer ; and the healing water, baptism. The booklet is animated by the same extreme religious sentiment of renunciation that many years later prompted the authoress to enter the All Saints motherhood.
The elder Miss Rossetti had also something of her elder brother's artistic faculty. Two or three designs in A Shadow of Dante were her own work. In addition to this book there is one imaginative essay by her which is practically unknown. It is very scarce indeed; possibly not half a dozen copies are extant. I have seen one copy only, that which was lent me by Miss Christina Rossetti. it was printed privately in 1846, when the authoress was in her nineteenth year. The title is The Rivulet; a Dream not all a Dream, and the matter is an allegory of life and religion, where the personalities are introduced as Liebe (Love), Selbsucht (Selfishness), Eigendunkel (Presumption), and Faule (Indolence). The "rivulets" represent the natural heart of man; the "serpents " who are for ever fouling the waters, the devil ; the fruit and flowers overhanging the banks and poisonous when 'they fall into streams, the grosser and less palpably sinful allurements of the world the crystal mirror which the guardian of each rivulet has in keeping represents the Scriptures ; the vases of perfume, prayer ; and the healing water, baptism. The booklet is animated by the same extreme religious sentiment of renunciation that many years later prompted the authoress to enter the All Saints motherhood.
#2203-To Veit Dietrich,Preacher in Nuernberg
Grace and peace in Christ! We wish you happiness, my dear Veit, that you have taken part in the desired marriage and I plead for you it will go well. However not exccedingly so with everything going being like the skill of husbands so that perhaps you might make the holy Paul a liar who dares us to oppose the favored and heated husbands and says (1 cor.7:28):"Such people have physical troubles". If sometime the case should arise that it appears that Paul has spoken truly as you would want: then consider proving yourself as a man who can bear the weakness of a wife and extol like Peter (1 Pet.3:7) to rather preserve the manly rule so that you achieve the righteous wrath and then also not concede all power. However, what I teach, as the sow teaches Minerva, that the love of wedding glows yet so impetuously that you an hundred eligible (marititias) women (as now your new one is) could rule. Much more I wish you happiness in your call to the administration of the church. I pray and hope as well that you will not yield anything from the form of doctrine which here you rather have drawn than drunk. And I have arranged with the Doctor Hieronymous Schaller that he should say to you in my name that you should not permit any heathen (gentile) way rule you although you likely sometime may be tempted which in German is called "Dunkelfein" that is, namely, one who "dances well". Since you see what great unrest has been caused to be spread by those who have gone out from among us. Therfore I want that you greet your wife from me and pray that with all the powers of body and soul she earnestly defends so that you do not become an adulterer with that very lovely whore who is named Eigendunkel (philantia) and you be free from that burning desire if it perhaps stirs you as Paul in the letter to Titus (1:7) teaches: (may authaday GK.) (not pleasing yourself); you know what he meant. Be it well with you in the LOrd. My lord (Kaethe) greets you and wishes you happiness in marriage as well as in the preaching-office, and you, on the other hand, pray for us. Wittenberg on the 14th of January Anno 1536. Your Martin Luther,D.
Monday, February 11, 2008
Sunday, February 10, 2008
#2202-To the Elector Johann Friedrich
To the illustrious, high-born Prince and Lord, Herr Johann Friedrich, Duke in Saxony, Reich Arch-marshall of the Holy Roman Empire and Elector,Landgraf in Thuringia and Markgraf in Meissen, my most gracious Lord.
G.(Grace) and peace in Christ Jesus and my poor Pater Noster (Lord's Prayer). Illustrious, High-born Prince, most gracious Lord! ECFG's writing I have humbly understood. First, on Magister Philip whether he should be ordered here to discuss with us the matters on the King with the English messenger : therto it is my humble consideration that Maagister Philip (if he does not want to express himself on the matter) should also be there because ECFG before his trip to Austria prescribed to Doctor Antonius that he should require us theologians to come together as soon as the second messenger should come with it being here or (if the Legat wanted to avoid the Pestilenz) at Torgau. And ECFG indicated that they at Schmalkald received well the opinion of M. Philipp but I do not yet know how that proceeded or whether they were satisfied. To have the same again considered by ECFG I would not be happy that the Glimpf (don't know how to translate among many options) and outcry against us as they would despise us because here the constellation (Gestirne) are foolishly aligned against them that I almost marvel greatly; and yet they have the highest boast and praise without measure for how ECFG has regarded them until now etc.
To be sure on my part I can well appreciate that M.Philipp would want to be spared in this matter. Because I have the suspicion that I must pour this bath with no one or anyone; so there will fall (so I think) a great portion upon me. However, Magister Philipp's Glimpf (?)(leniency) I cannot offer.
Secondly, that ECFG so faithfully admonishes me to have good regard for the matter etc.,I thank ECFG heartily. However because they have prescribed to ECFG to tread down upon our previous appeals I must see and hear what they offer; ECFG may well learn (in confidence and private) that I cannot let, in conscience, it be hidden that the queen and young queen together before the whole kingdom should not be charged with incesti and incesta (blood shame)publicly as they boast that previously the Pope and and eleven universities have asserted. I cannot fathom the depth of their jurisprudence I could not say thereto more than a goose. However, I hold that my previous sentence should hold also but I do not want otherwise to be unfriendly to them or to imply that in other matters that they should think we German are stone and wood etc. Such I do not say at the table (conference table?)and they must hold to the matter etc. Otherwise every stable-boob would have to justify this matter everywhere. Such I want ECFG as an obedient answer graciously to receive. Herewith be commended to God and I humbly thank ECFG for the gift of the wild-game etc. On the Tuesday after Epiphany (11 Jan.)1536.ECFG'S obedient Martinus Luther,D.
G.(Grace) and peace in Christ Jesus and my poor Pater Noster (Lord's Prayer). Illustrious, High-born Prince, most gracious Lord! ECFG's writing I have humbly understood. First, on Magister Philip whether he should be ordered here to discuss with us the matters on the King with the English messenger : therto it is my humble consideration that Maagister Philip (if he does not want to express himself on the matter) should also be there because ECFG before his trip to Austria prescribed to Doctor Antonius that he should require us theologians to come together as soon as the second messenger should come with it being here or (if the Legat wanted to avoid the Pestilenz) at Torgau. And ECFG indicated that they at Schmalkald received well the opinion of M. Philipp but I do not yet know how that proceeded or whether they were satisfied. To have the same again considered by ECFG I would not be happy that the Glimpf (don't know how to translate among many options) and outcry against us as they would despise us because here the constellation (Gestirne) are foolishly aligned against them that I almost marvel greatly; and yet they have the highest boast and praise without measure for how ECFG has regarded them until now etc.
To be sure on my part I can well appreciate that M.Philipp would want to be spared in this matter. Because I have the suspicion that I must pour this bath with no one or anyone; so there will fall (so I think) a great portion upon me. However, Magister Philipp's Glimpf (?)(leniency) I cannot offer.
Secondly, that ECFG so faithfully admonishes me to have good regard for the matter etc.,I thank ECFG heartily. However because they have prescribed to ECFG to tread down upon our previous appeals I must see and hear what they offer; ECFG may well learn (in confidence and private) that I cannot let, in conscience, it be hidden that the queen and young queen together before the whole kingdom should not be charged with incesti and incesta (blood shame)publicly as they boast that previously the Pope and and eleven universities have asserted. I cannot fathom the depth of their jurisprudence I could not say thereto more than a goose. However, I hold that my previous sentence should hold also but I do not want otherwise to be unfriendly to them or to imply that in other matters that they should think we German are stone and wood etc. Such I do not say at the table (conference table?)and they must hold to the matter etc. Otherwise every stable-boob would have to justify this matter everywhere. Such I want ECFG as an obedient answer graciously to receive. Herewith be commended to God and I humbly thank ECFG for the gift of the wild-game etc. On the Tuesday after Epiphany (11 Jan.)1536.ECFG'S obedient Martinus Luther,D.
Friday, February 08, 2008
#2201-Elector Johann Friedrich to Luther
To Docy.Mart.Luther, Johann Friedrich etc.
To begin, our greetings. Honorable and celebrated, dear devout one! After our Landvoigt in Saxony, Hans Metsch, yesterday arrived here, he reported to us among other things that he happily saw the English messenger and wanted us to require and write to Philipp Melanchthon to go to Wittenberg so that he and others of our learned ones discuss the marriage of the King of England and that the named messenger would also be there.
We do not want to keep from you our gracious opinion that we have also recognized the attitude of of Philip at Schmalkald: that he does not think such discussion useful; and that also the emergency of our University in Jena required that he remain there etc. Thus we at this time have consented and think it best that he refrain from the discussion and remain at our University in Jena.
Because, however we have from the report of our Landvoigt that the English messenger wants very much to have Philip at the discussion and we do not know whether because of previous considerations of this matter it would be necessary or not; thus it is our gracious wish that you would let us know your thoughts, also as to before, whether you regard it as good to have discussion with the messenger. And also whether you consider it well and useful that Philip should come to the discussion at Wittenberg so that we should not be lacking anyone. Such we do not want to be kept from your gracious opinion and are favorably inclined toward you. Dated at Lochau on the Sunday after Epiphany (9 Jan.) 1536.
____ a PS of the Elector which is questionable.
to you also of Magister Franz further reports what Philipp thinks of our considerations after his return to the University.
The dealing with England regarding the marriage matter we have no doubt will be given due respect so that nothing departing from Christian and honorable position will be made before God and the world will be determined and interpreted as your questioning of the messenger will yield and which I will chiefly have your gracious opinion with favored desire as you the matter with envoy of the King and you carry it out and that you will report the same in writing would be of great favor to me and commend me in your Christian prayers. Jo.Friedrich Elector m.ppr.sspt.
To begin, our greetings. Honorable and celebrated, dear devout one! After our Landvoigt in Saxony, Hans Metsch, yesterday arrived here, he reported to us among other things that he happily saw the English messenger and wanted us to require and write to Philipp Melanchthon to go to Wittenberg so that he and others of our learned ones discuss the marriage of the King of England and that the named messenger would also be there.
We do not want to keep from you our gracious opinion that we have also recognized the attitude of of Philip at Schmalkald: that he does not think such discussion useful; and that also the emergency of our University in Jena required that he remain there etc. Thus we at this time have consented and think it best that he refrain from the discussion and remain at our University in Jena.
Because, however we have from the report of our Landvoigt that the English messenger wants very much to have Philip at the discussion and we do not know whether because of previous considerations of this matter it would be necessary or not; thus it is our gracious wish that you would let us know your thoughts, also as to before, whether you regard it as good to have discussion with the messenger. And also whether you consider it well and useful that Philip should come to the discussion at Wittenberg so that we should not be lacking anyone. Such we do not want to be kept from your gracious opinion and are favorably inclined toward you. Dated at Lochau on the Sunday after Epiphany (9 Jan.) 1536.
____ a PS of the Elector which is questionable.
to you also of Magister Franz further reports what Philipp thinks of our considerations after his return to the University.
The dealing with England regarding the marriage matter we have no doubt will be given due respect so that nothing departing from Christian and honorable position will be made before God and the world will be determined and interpreted as your questioning of the messenger will yield and which I will chiefly have your gracious opinion with favored desire as you the matter with envoy of the King and you carry it out and that you will report the same in writing would be of great favor to me and commend me in your Christian prayers. Jo.Friedrich Elector m.ppr.sspt.
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